13 June 2002 | BGS Newsletter | Issue 48 |
Welcome to the forty eighth edition of the Borley
Ghost Society Newsletter. Storage on the web site hard drive was maxed out June 5 at 428MB. Additions are put on hold until a larger drive can be purchased and installed. You are encouraged to continue submitting information for future posting.
All associates should delete the JUNO e-mail address, and use only BorleySociety@aol.com
In the Vincent O'Neil essay Upward Reach in the Heart of Man, you said, "what if there really
is a place deep inside the brain (blue spot)? Only this time, it is that
mysterious center that contains the spark of life, that unquenchable
desire to live?" Might I suggest that the URITHOM (Upward Reach in the Heart of Man)
Center might be the fingerprint of our creator-God, and the image of God
in which humans were created, according to the Bible? It's unlikely that
the scripture refers to a simple physical resemblance to God, but a
likeness of spirit -- the part of us that is driven to create instead of
destroy, nurture instead of harm, live instead of die. This is where we
resemble our maker/parent, and I think it dovetails into your musings on
this part of our brains or souls.
Regarding Andrew Clarke's Sidelight titled, Price's Second Visit:
I appreciated the summation of Harry Price's writings which delineate
his initial conclusion that there was nothing at Borley Rectory of any
parapsychological interest. . . . Complete remarks.
On "The Foyster Diaries," also by Andrew Clarke, [he] has taken an in-depth but concise look at Lionel Foyster's
original writings and alleged "diaries" concerning the supernatural
events at Borley. . . . Complete remarks.
Please continue your "Sidelights," Andrew -- I'd truly like to see them
appear in book form someday.
Linda Cody
Thanks ever so much for reading the sidelights. Your responses gave me great
encouragement. I try my best to assemble all the primary evidence I can.
Each essay therefore takes ages to do. I'd much rather try to add value to
the website, and support Vince's good works, than to publish yet another
book about Borley. A few points you raise. . . .[have been added to the bottom of your remarks].
Andrew Clarke
Regarding the best orb pictures I have ever seen. Consider that it would be interesting to see 3D
stereograms of Borley Church orbs. A distinct, 3D
field of orbs would address the question of whether
this effect is being caused by moisture in the air
and/or water droplets on the lens or by something
else.
Also, I am intrigued that many orbs have distinct
tails below the sphere which suggest that the orbs
are traveling up. Given the camera strobe should
freeze motion I have no ready explanation for this
effect. Indeed, if I remember correctly, a strobe
provides an effective shutter speed of 1/10,000 second
under black conditions as these pictures where
obviously shot. (Note that strobe photography can
freeze a moving bullet. In fact, shutter speeds of
1/2000 can freeze object motion in daylight.) So
either I'm remembering strobe speeds wrong or those
"water droplets" are traveling quite fast!
I commend Mr. O'Neil for his constant improvements to
the Borley Rectory web site.
Scott Cunningham
I have seen Malcolm Mitchell's recent added photos of his visit to Borley and found them very interesting. I also visited early hours of Sunday morning May 26th, 2002. . . .and whilst there took some photos not many, about six in all. The night was damp and was raining on and off, when downloading them I too had got the same type of images, orbs, on mine.
I personally believe that the rain was responsible for these type of photos but this is my own personal opinion.
Gary Cooke
Playfair, Guy Lyon. "Mediawatch." Paranormal Review. October 2001. p. 14. ("Borley Rectory may have come down many years ago, but strange things are still being reported from the church. In issue [35] of Vincent O'Neil's Borley Ghost Society newsletter, Darren Jarvis describes how three sets of brand new batteries in three different mini disc recorders went flat in less than two hours. These included a lithium battery. His Casio watch also misbehaved, resetting itself and getting rid of all its stored data. Trying to get this back later from his computer, he was informed that 'watch has no name.' This, a Casio representative told him, had never happened before. This is another example of the kind of thing ghost and poltergeist hunters are all too familiar with.")
Does any associate remember any mention of an interview with Nik Taylor? Time frame? Was it ever published?
Deary, Terry. "The boy who haunted himself." Internet. "A mystery of the supernatural for 8 - 16 years olds." (Stylized etching of rectory. Borley not featured in first installment.)
Dear Vincent
Borley has its own story in my "Point Non-fiction" book "True Mystery
Stories". To obtain a signed copy simply go to
[this web page] and print off an order
form. Follow the instructions and Bob's your uncle!
First came across Borley in a non-fiction book many years ago and it is
mentioned in many of the compilations of ghost stories I have used for
research over the years.
The graphic for "The Boy Who Haunted Himself" was selected by the
website designer and is taken from inside "True Mystery Stories" and is
Borley based. "The Boy Who Haunted Himself" has never been published
except to club members on the internet. The story itself does not
mention Borley.
The illustrator responsible for the "borrowed" illustration is David
Wyatt but I've never communicated with him or have any contact details
for him. The publishers arrange illustration. If you wish to contact him
it may be best to go through the editorial department at Scholastic.
Terry Deary
My name is Justine Craston, I'm in Year 10 and I'm doing a Factual Essay on Ghosts. Could you please give me some more information on Borley Rectory. It really interests me and although the information on the website is great I still need some other interesting facts and maybe some photos that I could copy and paste onto my document? Please, it would really be a big help! In the mean time continue upgrading this fantastic website. It truly is amazing!
Yours sincerely,
Justine Craston
[Thank you for your interest.
Please refer to Guidelines for student reports.]
hello my name is john . i whant to visit the borley rectory church can you tell me how to get there or send a map . i will be coming from london near wembley football ground. all my mates r in to ghost hunt me . lee james tracy . thank you by by . hope to here from you
TracyOkeef
I just wanted to tell you that i really enjoyed and found you web site ,one of the most wonderful site i have evr visited.I found the whole borley rectory story most fasinating and i hope you find out more about the whole story.I shall certainly be coming back to check for up dates.
julie knock
ipswich,suffolk
i think this is the child of a foyster but i cant b shure but the chair that the child is stod by lookes like the one to the left of the fire place in the dining roomon the picture of the dining room on the borley rectory web sight pleas can you let me no if you think this as well or if any one else does but pleas let me no if i am talking nonsence.
stevegale
[No, that makes perfect sense, and will be considered. Thank you for your interest.]
This photo would be late Victorian/early Edwardian - so around 1880.
It would have to be late Victorian as the child would have much longer
hair.
The reason being is that in those days they used to dress up there young
children(including the boys)in dresses.
Carmen-Jade Hillier
me and my boyfriend went to borley rectory yesterday we found it on accident cause are tyre had a puncher and me and him swear to god that we both saw this piece of land where tnere was nothing at all there and a little black dog (i believe) with red eyes and a man hangin off a fense but then he went suddenly
and he couldnt have gone any where.
Johanna Norris
I was looking at the closeup photo of the floating
brick in the doorway. I can see that the brick is not
floating. It is a piece of debris sticking out from
behind the doorway. What might throw you to think it's
floating is there is some heavy shadow between the
piece of debris and the edge of the doorway.
I have a really cool suggestion. Why don't someone set
up a live ghost cam in the Borley Rectory? There are
other websites that have done that such as Ordsall
Hall or the So
Weird ghostcam.
I've gotten bored looking at those websites, and I'm
beginning to think those places aren't as haunted as
they say. And besides that it appears Borley Rectory
is more famous than Ordall Hall and the So Weird
place. I think it's very possible a ghostcam at Borley
might see more activity there while and at the same
time many people on the internet can watch it. I'm curious what reasons would you have for not
setting up a ghostcam at Borley. Are you afraid the
ghosts there are too rough and they might break the
camera? Or perhaps you think that setting up a cam
there wouldn't show anything more than the cams at
Ordsall Hall and So Weird. As I see it any place that
is famous including haunted houses should get the
extra attention it deserves. I think there are plenty
of ghost hunters who would be glad to set a cam there.
stelcha
[Thank you for your contribution regarding the "floating brick." It has been added to the web site under "e-mail." As for a ghost cam, unfortunately, Borley Rectory was destroyed by fire in 1939.]
The only reason I'm mentioning this is because you
have shown respect for the sanctity of Borley Village.
Regarding a Borley Rectory cam, it is my opinion that
although the ghost nun is alleged to have made "guest
appearances" at the rectory, her actual connection
with that spot is to have regularly walked from the
stream around whatever building was there in her day
to get to the church. Indeed, if I remember
correctly, the nun allegedly followed Rev. Henry Bull
from this main church door to the rectory at one time.
(My guess is that she wasn't interested in the
rectory; she was once again walking from the church
around the "ghost building" where the rectory was then
at and back to the stream.)
The bottom line is that I would aim a cam at the main
entry to the church, at least on the outside. But
even if cam equipment were donated there would be
internet access expenses. Would you happen to have
any idea what such expenses would be like?
Also, I understand electric/electronic devices are
known to malfunction in this area so would a cam
really be worth it?
Thank you for listening.
Scott Cunningham
[I see you have been paying attention to the "Recent Additions list. :) Consultation of the map showing the nun's appearances indicates almost all were on the rectory grounds - not at the church. You are absolutely right, placing a web cam at the church would be against everything the BORLEY GHOST SOCIETY stands for, as declared in the Mission Statement: "It is not the purpose of the Society to cause undue hardship, embarrassment, or discomfort to the present residents of Borley. Their rights and serenities will not be disrupted by any member of the Society. Such residents will be treated with the same dignity in which Associates of the Society would wish to be treated." Such a feature would only cause MORE stress and anxiety to the already shattered tranquility of Borley. Additionally, the costs for wiring, electricity, Internet access, and maintainance would be prohibitive in this remote area. Multiple cameras would have to be set up to appease increased request, further complicating cost, maintainance, and set-up. As you point out, the images would be unreliable, if past history is any indication - plus there are the very real possibilites of hoaxes. Then there is vandalism. Such cams are traditionally placed in areas that can be monitored for trickery and theft - but the population of the area makes such monitoring impossible. In short - the residents would NOT allow such a thing - it is not even remotely financially feasible - and there are no guarantees anyone could trust the signal.]
So now that the Borley Recory hasn't been there for
the last 60 years where did the ghosts go? Are there
any stories of the Borley site still having ghosts
there at the present time? For Borley being the most
haunted house in England it's hard for me to believe
that the ghosts are not there now.
stelcha
[Please refer to my essay on that very subject.]
AFTER READING THE LAST TWO BORLEY SOCIETY NEWSLETTERS, (ALL THE VERY INTERESTING) I HAVE TOUGJHT THAT MAY BE YOUR TREATMENT OF MR. BABBS AND MR. FENWICK AT THEIR ENQUIERY TO YOUR VIEWS ON THE APPENDICE RELATING TO YOUR MOTHER WAS POSSIBLY RATHER ABRUPT. AFTER ALL, IT DOES HAVE SOME SIGNIFACENCE ON THE HAUNTING. WE UNDERSTAND THAT SHE WAS A TOTALLY REFORMED CHARACTER WHEN SHE EMMIGRATED TO AMERICA BUT HER ACTIONS BEFORE THAT DATE, BOTH DURING, BEFORE AND AFTER THE BORLEY YEARS MAY CONCERN HER RELIABILITY AS A WITNESS. I AM SURE THAT NEITHER GENTLEMEN MEANT ANY HARM. MR. BABBS FOR ONE IS A VERY AFFABLE GENTLEMAN AND WOULD IN NO WAY WISH TO EXPLOIT YOUR MOTHER'S ACTIONS FOR THE SAKE OF SENSATIONALISM.
YOURS
JOE OLDING
[You are right, I believe both gentlemen DO have the best intentions. They still have my utmost respect and best wishes for success. Please understand that I take the added chapter very personally, as anyone would do if the same subject were raised about their family. My initial reaction was probably abrupt because I have been familiar with - and supported - this project for a number of years, and was shocked that this new chapter was being considered. I couldn't help but wonder, "Why now? Why has it NOT been important all the years the project has been under way, but is now considered important?" What happened to my mother as a child of 15 with Harold Greenwood does NOT reflect on the haunting in any way - nor does her private life after Borley. None of her associates after Borley had anything whatsoever to do with the alleged haunting. Highly respected paranormal researcher Iris Owen has pointed out, "She could never understand why everyone made such a fuss. I think she was genuinely puzzled over the interest the phenomena generated. She felt persecuted that because of that interest her private life was exposed in such detail. In those times, there were plenty of people whose private lives would not bear that kind of inspection. They were very disturbing and frightening times in which to live (WWII)." As Owen has said many times, "she herself never made any claims about paranormal events." In an October 4, 1979 letter to Peter Underwood, Owen said, "I frankly do not see that it matters whether Marianne can be believed or not, since she was not the one making the claims - it was Foyster himself, and [Harry] Price." Reverend Foyster told Price things Marianne had supposedly said, and Foyster wrote those alleged events in his various journals. There is no way of knowing what Marianne actually told Foyster, or if anything she did tell him was meant in fun. There is no public record of any claims made directly by Marianne. In actual fact, as Owen explained to Underwood in that same 1979 letter, Marianne was "aggrieved that no one has ever asked her for her own version of the events." My mother told Owen, ". . . unhappily I happened to be there when the time was right for the sensationalist to make heyday. . .I am the innocent victim." The new book is supposed to cover aspects of Borley not discussed in previous volumes. My mother was tracked down for years by Trevor Hall, and the results of his research published in the scandalous Widow of Borley by Robert Wood. It does not need to be addressed repeatedly.]
I was looking around on the net when i noticed that sombody was using your web page. I thought that i had better let you know about it Mr. O'Neil.
All the best
Mr. Flanagan
[Do you mean www.ghosts.org? "Obiwan" is an associate of the BORLEY GHOST SOCIETY. I was aware of that mention, and the link to my site - as well as hundreds of others. Many web sites have done more than "borrow" a few items from my site - some have attempted to put up a duplicate site. Many do not bother linking back to the original. When I find more than a few words or a few pictures, I visit the site to see if it is obnoxious, or if there is any way I can pursuade them to take it off, but if they decide to keep it up, there is little I can do.]
I'm writing to thank you for dedicating a page to
the Borley. I am also writing because I am intent on
publishing a collection of poetry dedicated to my
unique vision of gothic beauty. I have been
interested for some time in titling it "Borley: A
Gathering of Internal Turmoil". The actual
compostions centre around a figurative charcter of my
own development: Drais Dred; a tormented being intent
to wither 'way within the sordid confines of an
interdimensional museoleum. I originally had hoped to
write a screenplay involving para-psychological
investigators probing a fictional account of the
"Bore'" reappearing and allowing soul transfunction.
I have since focuses my attentention on poetry. I
hope not to relate directly the history of the rectory
itself, but to tie in the idea of an abomination of
despair and defammation. I hope to have an
aquaintance of mine illustrate the pages, but I have
an intriguing idea for the front and back covers. I
want to show that Lord Drais Dred represents an ideal
of unthinkable torment. I hope to include a photo of
the Rectory looking eeire and forboding. On the back
I want to show a photo of its burnt remains.
I'm sure I can get this off the ground. I had hoped
to create a work of Art that might be accessible to a
broader audience, but this is Art and written in a
vein that won't appeal to everyone. For me, it's more
about developing the Art than having mass produced
dissociative mind-mush fed to people. I might have to
go through an independent publishing process-but I
must prevail.
If you'd like, I could send you a rough copy of what
I have in mind. Some of the poetry itself is already
copyrighted under my name.
My main question is this: would the name present an
infringment problem? Also, do you know of photographs
I could possibly use? I would immensely appreciate
your assistance.
Sincerely,
Lee Ferris
I found an apartment key one wedding day mourning
"perhaps the opening to a secret passage of the church
tower" courage of affinity revealed boastful coward
A light suddenly encompasses a full dimension
Leads the settlers into a harrowing dimentia
Covered in quilts and the wagon's offering protection
Drais lay as Limp Limb safeguarded from affliction
Or so, as the future Lord all now but a boy,
He Thought
and was wrenched through treachery by tears known
only to false gods
The Parapsychology Foundation is happy to announce "Investigating the Paranormal: Ghosts and Hauntings," a forum which will take place on Saturday afternoon, June 29th, 2002 from 1 to 5 pm at the Metropolitan Hotel in midtown Manhattan. Veteran ghost-hunters Tony Cornell (UK), Dr. Hans Holzer (US) and Loyd Auerbach (US) will discuss research they have personally conducted. Dr. Carlos S. Alvarado, of the Foundation will also review historical cases of ghosts and hauntings investigations and moderate the proceedings. An open audience question and answer session is scheduled, as is a book-signing for Tony Cornell's Investigating the Paranormal (Helix Press, 2002; available through the Foundation for $36.00) due to launch on the 29th . Cornell's book reviews his 55 years of ghost, haunting and mediumship investigations in Britain and the U.S. and has chapters on photography, mediumship, and the use of instrumentation in haunting investigations. The event is $75 at the door (registration tables open at 12:15 pm) or $65 in advance. Seating is limited; to be guaranteed of a seat, call, fax, email or visit the Foundation to preregister. Payment made by made by cash, check (payable to the Foundation) or charge. The event will take place in the Manhattan Room on the Penthouse Level of the Metropolitan Hotel, an art deco hotel located on 51st and Lexington Avenues in New York City. For out-of-towners, the Metropolitan Hotel is featuring a number of specials on its rooms this summer (ask for the "Big Apple Special"). Check out their website at www.metropolitanhotelnyc.com or call 800-836-6471. The Habitat and Pickwick Hotels, lower priced venues for a summer holiday in New York, are within walking distance of the Metropolitan. (For general information on hotels in New York, check www.hoteldiscounts.com.) Flyers are available for any group that wants to publicize the event among their members. The contact information for the Foundation is:
Parapsychology Foundation, Inc.
228 East 71st Street
New York, NY 10021
email: office@parapsychology.org
website: www.parapsychology.org
Many thanks for forwarding [the Parapsychology Foundation announcement]. I have recently heard a Virginia
story about a circle of 17th-century (?) children being seen in a field.
One broke away and came within four feet or so of the observer before
vanishing along with all the others. The child was described as a boy but
wearing female child's clothing. I questioned the man who saw this and I
have no doubt whatever that he was not fabricating. One is reminded of the
girls at Borley and the sudden disappearance of groups of figures at
Versailles.
Best regards,
Ivor Noel Hume
Hi my name is Alison McConnell, i find your webb site really good,i used to work in second hand bk shop years ago and used to find all sorts of books on Borley .I am sure i have a book on the the story as you know anything on Borley is very rare. well done on the site.With beat wishes
A McConnell
[Thank you very much for writing. Where was your bookstore located? Did you keep any of the Borley books? I'm trying to compile a Bibliography - do you see anything missing?]
I saw your online article regarding the Philip experiment, and was wondering
if you might be interested in sharing some thoughts on this as it relates to
tulpa creation (also known as thought-form creation). . . .For four years, I have been collecting and researching content for a book I will one day write related to the powers of the 84 mahasiddhas. One of the powers of the mahasiddhas was tulpa creation. My research has introduced me to Haitain Vodou, Santeria (and similar African-based religions), Alexandra
David-Neel, Kenneth Batcheldor, Douchan Gersi, the 18,000-year-old Bon
religion of Tibet, shoggoths/djinnis/elementals/egregores/archetypes of the
mind/I Ching hexagrams, and sexual tantra and advanced yoga, among other
things.
Thanks!
Brian Richard
["The word Tulpa is from the Tibetan language and refers
to any entity that attains reality solely by the act of imagination." Fascinating - sounds like Philip indeed! I wonder when the term first came into use? Although George and Iris Owen are my very good friends, and I would entertain a dialogue, please understand that my exclusive focus is with Borley. Let's start, but with the understanding that what you present is totally new to me. If you like, I can present it to associates of the BORLEY GHOST SOCIETY for discussion (normally, essays are reserved for associates only, but depending on what you present, I might bend the rule a little). As we begin, please keep the thoughts at a rudimentary level - we can expand later. If there is someway you can tie this in with hauntings - Borley in particular - so much the better. Thanks for getting in touch.]
Some months ago a friend phoned, and told me he had been unable to find a birth certificate for Harry Bull. He asked me to see what I could find. I checked the index in London without success. Fortunately, the date and place of birth are on his tombstone. I wrote to the local registrar in Sudbury and asked them to supply a birth certificate - enclosed. You will see that it doesn't give a name. I visited my local regsitrar, and she told me this is quite common. It's a legal requirement that you register a birth, but you don't have to give a name - all that is required is male or female.
I was interested in the letter from Douglas Pearless in BGS Newsletter 47. I supplied the photograph and the information about Frank Charles Pearless used in The Ghosts of Borley by Peter Underwood. I was told that his first wife and children were in America. The boy Pearless took to Borley was named Douglas Stuart Pearless.
Best Wishes,
Alan Roper
Could you tell me your opinion on Harry Prices deportment please,as i beleive he hoaxed and orchestrated most of what went on at Borely.
I have read extensively on this subject and have come to the conclusion that he is a fraud and nothing else.
Can i recount the statement by Mr Charles Sutton of the Daily Mail who wrote of a visit to Borley in 1929 of how a stone had hit Sutton on the head.Sutton then found Price to have 'bricks and pebbles' in his pockets! What else can we make of this but the obvious? There are countless other incidents like this as well,that occured through the years of which Trevor Hall's 1978 book - 'Search for Harry Price' has made note of,and has proven beyond doubt that Price was a fraud.
The book is one i've had for a few years and was first published in 1980 -
It goes into extensive detail on Borley,and is a very good read.It also has info on the most amazing ghost picture ever,which has never been proven to be a fake -
The irony of all this is that if all the past researchers had focused their efforts on Borley Church,they wouldn't of been wasting their time,
as this place i feel,is truly haunted.
Do you believe Harry Price to be telling the truth about Borley Rectory
Vince, or did he embellish things a lot? What's your opinion? The incident that sticks in my mind the most is the one in which Charles Sutton of the Daily Mail recounted a visit he made in 1929,in which he was hit on the head by a pebble; "I seized Harry,and found his pockets full of bricks and pebbles." Now you've got to admit that finding these items in his pocket, does not make Price look the least bit credible or authentic, indeed, I wouldn't trust him after finding such items. The only reason Sutton didn't push this incident is that he was advised not to by his lawyer, as a lible case would follow.It was some 20 years later only after Prices death in 1949 that this incident re surfaced.
Thankyou,
Wayne.
[Thank you for your interest. You have spurred me on to research and list the Sutton texts in more detail. Including a summation of the various reports.
You may find interesting reading about Harry Price throughout the Bibliography, as well as some of the essays submitted by associates of the BORLEY GHOST SOCIETY. You might also try a "google" search, at the bottom of the home page for more on Sutton. As for Price, he did a great deal to put the study of parapsychology on the map. He was the first to use a ghost kit, and the first to use outlined criteria at a scene. His first experiences were debunking the paranormal. As a writer, I know how hard it is to keep track of the reams of research I gather for various projects, and his failure to include certain "evidence" in the Borley research may have been accidental - it may have been on purpose. Since we will never know, I have dedicated my life to researching and preserving as much of the complete record of Borley as can be discovered - pro and con. I post everything without prejudice, and then let the reader decide.]
The past few days I have become fascinated by Borely... I only heard about it from a friend the other day, but since then have been twice! I took my digital camera last night and took some photos (unfortunatly the night time ones didn't come out very well, despite having a torch and the camera flash in operation). Attached is a photo that has intrigued me since I took it. My friends and I have seen faces in the picture, but not obviously - you have to look hard to see them. I'm pretty sure none are real, but are just effects of trees, lights, etc. I read the "sometimes, a photo is just a photo" page, so I know that any faces may well just be part of a tree or something. But I felt I should send it, for you to have a look at as you know better than I what to look for, and checks that you can do. Someone, although I can't see this at all, said there appears to be two hooded figures in the picture too...Please could you mail me back once you've looked at it, and tell me if you can see anything and if so if it's what it appears to be.
Our eyes are probably just playing tricks on us! Thanks for putting it up
on the site.
I remembered reading about the [broken] windows, but I forgot to make a point of
looking [to see if they were permanently covered]. I sadly don't remember seeing the stained glass. It was sad to see
that all the windows had wire metal sheets over them. When we arrived there,
some locals were gardening in the Church grounds, and gave us very stern
looks.
Through a window round at the back of the Church (the opposite side to the
entrance), through a window we could see some kind of statues of two people
laying down, with their hands out praying. I was wondering if you know
anything about them?
Attached are a few more pictures that I thought you may be interested to
see - they're nothing out of the ordinary - just of the Church and some
grave stones, a similar picture to one I remember seeing on your site.
Maybe you could put these up on your site as well. Have you seen anything in the photos?
Congratulations on such a wonderful site - I've learnt so much about Borely from it - it's an excellant resource.
Cheers,
Malcolm Mitchell
[The "statues of two people laying down" is the famous Waldegrave tomb. As to any photo contributed to this section, it is absolutely imperative that I stay neutral. It is up to the visitors of my site to determine for themselves, with no prejudice - either way - demonstrated by me. As I say on the first page of the section for "others" to contribute - "I can neither support nor deny these experiences." Inside my web site is a similar disclaimer, which used to be on my home page - "In presenting the following information, I make no judgement as to what is true, what is legend, or what is imagination. Because I have such close family ties to Borley, I have dedicated my life to researching and gathering as much information as possible - Borley is all I do. Every piece of evidence available is presented - pro and con. It is up to the reader to decide what to believe and what to discard."]
I am writing to tell of our experience of borley church last month, April 2002.
For starters, the place took some finding. Once found, (after 2 and a half hours)
we found the church and first comment was it's really quiet. We then went up to the church porch door and lay some yellow honeysuckle flowers there, in respect of the spirits there and respect of the people of borley. I just thought I'd say this in case anyone wondered where they had come from. We then took some photogaphs of our visit. We were using a bare bones basic throw away camera with no flash, and it was a dark rainy day. We did notice that we saw not a single resident of borley. When we got the photo's developed a few weeks later, we noticed the photo's had images like orbs, white and grey flashes across the thick bushes, one looks to have
a face in it. There is even one with what looks like a small alien like dwarf looking at us from behind one of the bushes. There are others with weird things on as these are just a few.
(If you wish I can download a few to you) It was a good day out for me and my family
and we thank the people of borley for having us. Finally, on the way home the car electrics started playing up as in the alarm and it rectified itself the next day.
Mark and Yvonne Bradley
'Most Haunted' will not be covering the subject of Borley Rectory in this
series. It may feature in future episodes perhaps?
Regards
David W
Living TV
The latest newsletter and the extensive changes are excellent.
Great to get in without using a password.
Last week I sent a donation to Rev. Captain Brian
A. Sampson towards the cost of the upkeep of Borley Church.
I know this is only "a drop in the bucket" and I hope I'm not
the only one who contributes a little of his/her money but I
have a good feeling to have something done for the preservation
of this wonderful church. If I get an answer from the Reverend
I'll send it to you.
By the way, what about the Borley Church Preservation Fund?
Does it get along?
Cheers to you and all BGS members from
Birgit Brenner
[The Borley Church Preservation Fund is still open, although contributions from the BORLEY GHOST SOCIETY were temporarily suspended due to a short-fall in meeting expenses. As participation in the Society improves, so will contributions. Thank you very much for your kind consideration!]
J. Aelwyn Roberts is the author of a couple of books on the paranormal,
and I have greatly enjoyed reading the one I have. However, this is not
his primary focus. He is a priest, first and foremost, who has been
called upon as "someone who has experiences with these things" when
various seemingly supernatural incidents have been referred to the
church authorities. . . . His first book, "Holy Ghostbuster: A Parson's Encounters With the
Paranormal," [mentions] that he has appeared several times on BBC Wales and BBC
Radio. . . . He seems to be a warm and likeable man, judging from his
writing. His second book, "Yesterday's People: A Parson's Search for the
Answers to Life After Death," was published in 1997, and that's the last
I've heard of him. . . . If enough of your friends are interested, or your church,
perhaps you could have him speak at on of your functions. He sounds like
an absolutely fascinating man. Let me know if you do manage to meet him!
Also, you might ask the Society for Psychical Research about
opportunities to discuss your interest in the supernatural. Perhaps they
have lectures the public can attend? I don't know for sure.
Best wishes,
Linda Cody
I`ve always been fascinated by the history of Borley - it`s a shame that
churches are kept locked these days - there`s a maginificent tomb of the
Waldegraves in there. I saw it many years ago. We love that area - we often go to Long Melford, close by, and get fish and chips from "Chips and Chopsticks" - and go and eat them up on the Green! What a terrific [web] site - I shall certainly spen a lot of time checking out the rest of it! One small criticism though - the beautiful photos take AGES to download - and I have a very powerful computer and a pretty fast modem. Thanks for contacting me, anyway - I`m fascinated! I must say that you always feel as if you`re being watched, walking up the church path! That may only be because you know the history, of course - or just that ancient trees like those magnificent old Yews make you feel that way in any case, but I don`t THINK it`s just that!
Regards
Pat Porter
East Anglian Xstitch
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I was born in 1955. I was told about Borley back in 1965 by my father but I did not understand what it was all about at the time.
The place that I was born at was haunted and my father could see and speak to the dead! It did frighten me at the time, but I did settle down and you could say that I accepted ghosts for what they are and I don't fear them anymore.
The house still stands but not many people will stay in it!
Years have gone by and I have been going out ghost hunting. I investigated the Belgrave Hall haunting, but I think that was a case of wishfull thinking(?)
I saw Borley Rectory on the Internet and decided to check it out. I have been to Borley many times now, and I find it a wonderful place with lots of unexplainable things. I joined the Borley Ghost Society so that I could learn more about the place.
I am a security guard, and I am often called upon to use my eyes and ears. I think that's what helps me when I go ghost hunting.
If you go to Borley please think about the few people that live there, and respect the dead because one day you will be dead too!
This photo was taken 25 May 2002 at borley church. It showes mist or smoke comming from the church window. I was not smoking and nothing could be seen at the time it was taken.
Roger Flanagan
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